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Posted By: Greg Dunlap <greg_and_eileen@msn.com>
Date: Monday, 26 September 2005, at 9:37 p.m.

Thanks for the responses to my message. I moved the tank, and all the fish, over (3) hours (including setup) last time. It was possible, given I used battery operated airpumps and moved the aquarium drained of water, but plastic-wrapped, so the moisture kept the beneficial bacteria in the gravel-bed alive and healthy. Once I filled at this end, and PH balanced the water, I just fired up the filters and put the fish in.

The problem with long moves is the logistics of keeping the water clean in the holding-buckets, and at the correct PH and temeprature. It will be a fall move, and keeping the car at a nice steady 80 degrees would be difficult.

I have had tanks for many years, and made several short moves. If you plan, it isn't too tough to move. This will be a long move, and, after all considerations, I truly believe the odds are against the fish surviving the move.

Of course, importers do keep fish in-flight for 2-3 days, but most are drugged. The sick truth is 25-60% mortality, in transit, is considered "normal', depending on species. The sad truth is that mortality rates climbs even higher when fish-death from disease due to stress in the first 30 days after "arrival" is factored in.

These are not unfounded claims- a few years ago some animal-rights groups were lobbying for very strict controls on transit to lower the depressing mortality rates. The last I read, they had lost. After all, "they are only fish".

These extremely high death rates have caused severe depopulation of some species- one is the Clown Loach. As the years pass, I have seen fewer Clowns on the market, and the ones I have seen have been increasingly smaller (the large ones have been fished out),and they appear to be weaker. A sad state of affairs.

I ran an ad in a local paper with a large circulation. Only one woman called, and she expected to use local tap-water for the fish. I politely asked her to please consider installing an RO system if she was interested in the setup. She never called back.

My guess is she will go to the local pet supermarket and buy a "handy-dandy" tank setup with "ALL" included "STUFF" for $400, fill it with tapwater, then proceeed to overstock it and experience an extremely high death-rate. I offerred her $1000 of equipment and stock for $300, but she just could not understand why I insisted she install a $225 RO filter under the kitchen sink. I would not sell the tank to her- she would have killed the fish, I have no doubts.

Please, no arguments from those of you who live in areas where the tapwater IS clean. I envy you this simplicity, but our tapwater in southern California is undrinkable, so why would anyone expect fish would thrive in it?

Anyway, if you have any friends or relatives in SoCal in Los Angeles, San Diego or Riverside County who would like a setup with very high-quality equipment and very healthy, nice stock, have them contact me.

I would rather sacrifice the tank setup and fish than try to move them- the odds are against them for this trip. Please, though, responsible sensible people only, not someone "who wants a tank for little-Johnny".

Sensitive tropicals are fine for a family, but it is the same as buying a puppy- adults end up caring for the dog, the children are not responsible to be trusted, and lose interest after about two months.

I did talk to a friend across the street. She loves animals, and would take care of the fish, and realizes the Clowns will probably live 20+ more years, so there is a large responsibility involved. Her husband is a Marine, and I suspect they live on a tight budget, so I told her I would give them the tank if she promises to take care of the fish as well as we have.

They have a good quality whole-house water filtration system, so that problem is solved. (They won't drink the water, either!!) I would rather give them away to a responsibe owner than take the chance of killing them in the move, or selling them to someone who doesn't have the interest in setting the system up right, and, in doing it incorrectly, killing who knows how many of the fish.

We still have Stacy the wondermutt. Some of you may remember when she was 8 months old she shattered her shoulder. She had surgery done on it by an orthopedic surgical specialist, and her recovery was long and painful. I worked with her through the rehab (I have had to rehab through 3 spine-recon surgeries), so I guess I knew what I was doing!!)

We adopted her from a shelter, and she appears to be a German Shepherd/ Rhodesian Ridgeback mix. The Shepherd part was easy to see, and we figured out the Ridgeback after 7-8 people had stopped us (literally stopped the car, got out, and asked us about "our Ridgeback", they either owned one or had owned one, "She looked exactly like our dog---". I went online and looked at Ridgebacks, and the similarity is mindboggling.

Anyway, I may